Virus of Porcine Circovirus?

[blonde]

Originally Posted by Stevie G

The disease problem would undoubtedly have cause the lack of milk/mastitis problems that you can be certain of.
If you were using the same diet before the disease hit your farm and all was going well and then the disease hit and things changed then the diet is not your main problem, but the disease.

Typical lactating sow feed diet would be:
(in lbs)

Ground corn 1325
Soya bean meal 550
Fat 60
Ground lime stone 21
monocalcium phosphate 26



Why not Dicalcium phosphate can use wheat and lupins if corn is not available.



salt 10
Vit premix 4
chromax premix 1
choline cloride 3

This diet is fairly high in protein around 18%, but to reduce that put less Soya bean meal in it.

Most lactating diet are fairly similar to this, give or take abit.
Hope this help and the Vit and minerals usually come ready to use and are just pour in.

Have added it in red inthe middle of this thread!

[blonde]

Originally Posted by Stevie G

And a whole new pig herd hey Blonde.
Out with the old in with the new.
I am presuming than once a sow has been infected with a disease it is then too late to vaccinate, so you culled out the old and brough in new stock to which you vaccinated everything that came in???
Is that so, or did you just deside that here was a good opputunity to change gentics at the same time as the old had wasn't as good as it could be.
What was JK take on the whole thing?

Cant afford to bring in any thing else.....dont want to catch anything else, had many tests done for many diseases since our troubles arose and we are basically a clean herd. Have enough genetics here to produce boars and sows...We vaccinate for Parvo and Erysipelas only as they are the only two that were found.......

Quote Once a sows has been infected with a disease it is then too late to vaccinate Unquote, just the opposite Stevie..... the vet has been just great with helping get this problem in to gear and having us back on track..... But it has been one long year with little or no production. No sows culled and no boars culled..... couple went in for tissue extraction and for samples to be sent away to the laboratory. But patience and perseverance helps when there is a problem with animals.

[Stevie G]

Originally Posted by blonde

Have added it in red inthe middle of this thread!

There are many other ingredients you can use this is just one example.

Feel free to give more if you wish Blonde.

PS. Blonde sorry for the problem earlier, was in a hurry when I came home from work and pressed on the wrong thing.
Pleased to see hes sorted it out!

[blonde]

Originally Posted by Stevie G

There are many other ingredients you can use this is just one example.

Feel free to give more if you wish Blonde.

PS. Blonde sorry for the problem earlier, was in a hurry when I came home from work and pressed on the wrong thing.
Pleased to see hes sorted it out!

I was pretty stunned when I came in this afternoon to find I as no longer on it....... wonder....... gee you should have been a fly on the wall....... questions questions questions and why...... any way it is sorted and that is all that matters. so I did not get a reply to a post either, just nothing there and my info is all gone......pity..... Not to worry

[Stevie G]

Originally Posted by blonde

Cant afford to bring in any thing else.....dont want to catch anything else, had many tests done for many diseases since our troubles arose and we are basically a clean herd. Have enough genetics here to produce boars and sows...We vaccinate for Parvo and Erysipelas only as they are the only two that were found.......

Quote Once a sows has been infected with a disease it is then too late to vaccinate Unquote, just the opposite Stevie..... the vet has been just great with helping get this problem in to gear and having us back on track..... But it has been one long year with little or no production. No sows culled and no boars culled..... couple went in for tissue extraction and for samples to be sent away to the laboratory. But patience and perseverance helps when there is a problem with animals.

If a boar or sow are infected with Smedi or Erysipelas then it is very likely that they could be infertile???????? So why would you risk keeping them????
What exactly are you saying Blonde????
Are you saying that you have used the old stock to breed your new stock????

And after all Blonde, Rome was not built in a day.

[blonde]

Originally Posted by Stevie G

If a boar or sow are infected with Smedi or Erysipelas then it is very likely that they could be infertile???????? So why would you risk keeping them????
What exactly are you saying Blonde????
Are you saying that you have used the old stock to breed your new stock????

And after all Blonde, Rome was not built in a day.

Yes and they were,,,, the sows aborted their little piglets a week or so before they were due. came back on heat so to speak, but nothing happened.....Vets became involved and did some testing, then vaccinating and a year on we are now getting normal size litters. I am now off loading old choppers and keeping the new breeding stock......with a vaccination program in hand.

But we did not have PCV 2 and we still dont have it...... so all the more reason not to bring any thing in

[Stevie G]

Originally Posted by blonde

Yes and they were,,,, the sows aborted their little piglets a week or so before they were due. came back on heat so to speak, but nothing happened.....Vets became involved and did some testing, then vaccinating and a year on we are now getting normal size litters. I am now off loading old choppers and keeping the new breeding stock......with a vaccination program in hand.

But we did not have PCV 2 and we still dont have it...... so all the more reason not to bring any thing in

PPV or PCV hey Blonde.
For PPV there has been a vaccine available for years!

5 years out of the business and need to catch up...............don't think so.

[blonde]

Originally Posted by Stevie G

PPV or PCV hey Blonde.
For PPV there has been a vaccine available for years!

5 years out of the business and need to catch up...............don't think so.

Why waste money and vaccinate if you dont have the problem....every time you handle your sows it cost money......... as in time. My vet knows what is what and I am sure if it was necessary he would have suggested it long ago but I dont have the problem.....so even better

[BlueButt]

Originally Posted by blonde

Why waste money and vaccinate if you dont have the problem....every time you handle your sows it cost money......... as in time. My vet knows what is what and I am sure if it was necessary he would have suggested it long ago but I dont have the problem.....so even better

What sort of ratio are there around the world for diseases and are the farms running have every thing. Are there any farms that dont have any of the really problomatic diseases? If so how do they stay clean? How do they keep diseases out of their livestock?

[Stevie G]

Originally Posted by BlueButt

What sort of ratio are there around the world for diseases and are the farms running have every thing. Are there any farms that dont have any of the really problomatic diseases? If so how do they stay clean? How do they keep diseases out of their livestock?

Yes farms have no diseases and are none to have a high health status.
Ratio, couldn't really tell you, but most farms have something.
And to keep a piggery at HHS, they only use AI to improve genetics and usually don't let any live stock enter on farm and if they do only from a farm with the same health status.
Humanes must shower in and not have been in cotact with other stock for atleast 4 days, so they carry no disease problems and all truck must be washed and disifected before(and after) deliveries.
A herd like this is called a "closed herd".